i hate ken wilber
most of the time i’m not thinking about ken wilber, but whenever he gets mentioned by someone or i come across his name/works, i passionately despise him. i have a friend that has been really into him for some years, and i end up with some cds or dvds or books on loan….i’m actually too nice in such a situation to divulge my rather harsh opinion on the matter. i even attempt to watch/listen/read a little bit just to be able to say i did. but oh is it ever excruciating! here are my two reactions nowadays: pay attention to the drivel and get extremely irate; or pay no attention at all and let my mind wander (normally to very mundane subjects). i also hate hate hate how ken wilber says “guru”….like “g’ROO”….drives me up a wall.
why do i hate ken wilber so much? for one, i find him extremely egotistical and condescending. think about this, if you’ve looked or listened to any of his crap, you will quickly discover that it is nothing new. he basically rehashes a lot of ancient eastern philosophies, gives them some new terminology (the bigger the word, the better), and tries to make things all pseudo-scientific in order to make it seem important. that’s my biggest problem with ken wilber: everything that comes out of his mouth (or written by him) is just this egotisitcal masturbatory intellectualism that is designed to make anyone not “in the know” or “part of the club” seem undeveloped and unenlightened. what all this creates is a cult-like atmosphere using special lingo to distinguish yourself from the others. i really see no difference in this “philosophy” than i do in say scientology. maybe ken wilber doesn’t require you to leave your families/friends and give up all you own to him, but his products can be rather expensive. and i believe ultimately damaging to your well-being. getting you caught up in words and concepts as opposed to actually looking at yourself and dealing with your issues successfully.
have you ever been to his website? god even that looks full of itself. uuuggghhhhhhhhhhh….
here’s something else: ken wilber at one point (and maybe still does) endorsed this other similar work of bullshit that calls itself adi da the da avatar.
i happen to collect books…and i know a few places where i can get free books, which could be good for reading, gifts, or if nothing else, used to make papercrete. anyhoo…that’s how i ended up with this stunning autobiographical tome called the knee of listening: the early-life ordeal and the radical spiritual realization of the divine world-teacher by adi da (the da avatar). ok. this is one of those american-turned-guru stories in which not one single sentence makes any sense and with every other noun capitalized. crap crap crap. let’s see what the back cover says just to give you an idea:
“This is a book like no other. It is the true story of how the Diving Being has appeared on earth in human form. Here Adi Da describes His first thirty-one years in vivid detail: His illumined Birth; His embrace of an ordinary human life; His unrelenting quest for God; His complete investigation of human experience–from money, food, and sex to the most esoteric mystical phenomena; His Divine Re-Awakening; and His unprecendented Revelation of the Way of Divine Enlightenment for all beings.”
if only My Ordinary Human Self could forego All Concientiousness and make Money off of such Pure Shit…though that Great Self would have Great Difficulty keeping My Divine Self from throwing up each time My Enlightened Being finished an Illumined Chapter. jesus! what Drivel!
ok. so that tangent had a purpose. here’s what ken wilber said about the great adi da:
“My opinion is that we have, in the person of Adi Da, a Spiritual Master and religious genius of the ultimate degree. Adi Da’s teaching is, I believe, unsurpassed by that of any other spiritual Hero, of any period, of any place, of any time, of any persuasion.”
need i say anymore? just another demonstration of ken wilber’s craptitude.
12.2.08 at 6:03 pm
I can relate. I’ve bloged about Wilber here:
http://stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com/2007/06/ken-wilber-comments.html
and here:
http://stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com/2007/12/more-on-ken-wilber.html
Stuart
http://home.comcast.net/~sresnick2/booboo.htm
02.6.09 at 5:59 am
Since I too wear designer spectacles, often shave my head/nuts, and enjoy writing a lot of masturbatory drivel punctuated every so often with meaningless intellectual terminology and buzzwords, I find Kenny’s work incredibly.. how to put it.. ‘dense and purposeful’. It spirals around and around its own spiritual art-hole before plunging deep into some politely postmodern something-andor-other. Very clever, very ‘integral’. Ken-as-personality also has a lot to say about that New Age Lite (??) kult-of-myself $pirituality that’s popular on syndicated talk shows hosted by billionaire tv-presenters with 42-acre estates featuring ocean and mountain views and mexican house slaves, and adored by prozac-addled middle class housewives. He’s onto something good and I want it, baby.
02.6.09 at 4:25 pm
thanks, HS. i enjoyed that.
02.18.09 at 1:24 pm
Amen… Jesus…
I met Adi Da. on two occasions.., sat with him on both occasions. I had the opportunity to feel the truth of this Great Man.., I had no doubt…, I simply loved him.. and I knew that he loved me….; I felt complete…, as if the moment conveyed everything that I would need to know.., which was nothing… but “Simply Be Happy, Feel into Infinity, move beyond your doubt and discomfort into the awesome vastness of it all…
He was an infant and a fully grown Lion.. and when I asked him if I needed to move into his community, his response was, “why would you want to live here”, answering a previous question i had asked myself while moving through the community of folks gathered around him. His reply.. affirmed in me that it was “crazy” to live here amongst all of these people.. I felt released, free…, and I loved Him.. even though there was a part of me that really wanted to be one of them.
There was no doubt in my mind that he was a dangerous Man; how dangerous was that? Ha, ha.. my dad tried to burn me up in a house fire, my mom used to burn me with hot irons.., was he that dangerous…? Was he capable of eating me…? I heard he had quite an appetite..
I was raised on an Indian Reservation, to me.. Adi Da was quite possibly.. a dangerous rattle snake.., a large mt. lion..? you get the idea.., well.., of course Adi Da was Dangerous…, but I would say.., I was more cautious of his devotees and critics.., (people like Ken Wilbu)r than I was ever about Adi Da….
I loved Him from the moment I became aware of his existence… and I love the thought and feeling of him now….
He was Bubba Free John…. and He was Eleutherios.. and I knew Him as both…. and every possibility under the Sun.., even Jeffrey Dahmer, Charles Manson…, LOL.. was he dangerous… ? Are you dangerous..? LOL… Hell.. its dangerous to even be here in the first place…
Make what you will of it…………. Rachel
04.16.09 at 6:35 pm
Rachel wrote…
> I met Adi Da. on two occasions.., sat with him on both occasions.
> I had the opportunity to feel the truth of this Great Man
I wouldn’t call Da so dangerous. Like a con man, he only trapped people who on some level consented to being trapped.
On the other hand, if I sat with him and got some special feelings, I’d call those feelings my own, and wouldn’t make ideas of truth and greatness and project them onto Da.
Stuart
http://stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com/2008/11/adi-da-dies.html
05.29.09 at 6:32 pm
who? you mean old baldy?
07.30.09 at 1:11 am
Had the horrible experience of student coming to me for training, singing the praises of Ken Wilber and his Integral (read: Ripped off and Ripped Up to become Completely Unrecognizable) Science and Philosophy.
I teach straight Buddhist-based healing arts and meditation. I have also worked in legitimate Transpersonal Psychology/Consciousness Research (with a good friend of Stan Grof and the other founders of Transpersonal Psychology) as well as in Physics,and Chemistry research. I was raised and trained by a Biologist and have a degree in Environmental Geography.
OK, nuff said about my egoic credentials here – I only mention to them because they have everything to do why Ken Willber makes me absolutely crazy.
If you speak his name in praise and wonderment, I will want to slap you silly to snap you out of it and then tell you to go get a REAL education and not a MIS-EDUCATION.
Darn that Ken Wilber if he doesn’t even understand the most fundamental tenants of EVOLUTIONARY THEORY. I mean… he just doesn’t get EVOLUTION. BIOLOGICAL EVOLUTION. HE DOESN’T UNDERSTAND IT! Biological concepts I understood as a seven year old, he doesn’t UNDERSTAND. And isn’t he supposed to have training in Biochemistry? So was that mainly chemistry with a couple classes of bio on top?
Stan Grof’s work – He doesn’t get that
Maha-Vairocana Tantra – He doesn’t get that.
Chogyam Trungpa’s work – He doesn’t get that.
Shakyamuni Buddha’s work – He doesn’t get that.
He doesn’t even get the continuation of the soul. If you discount Stan Grof’s work about psychology in the womb and birth trauma (because humans are not conscious in the womb – according to Wilber) then you discount ALL of Buddhist thought. ALL of it. Not just some of it. ALL of it. It’s all about continuity of consciousness from life to life.
If you don’t understand biological evolution to begin with how can you make any integration between spiritual/concsiousness evolution and biology or ecology??
I mean really Ken:
You don’t understand Biology, Ecology, or Evolution – Or Buddhism, or consciousness – so you are integrating your misunderstanding of physical reality with your misunderstanding of spiritual reality.
That’s GREAT. Give me MORE. You are a GOD.
No, you are not a god. You are a product of a TERRIBLE US education system where people who should be well educated in the Sciences and Philosophy are not. If they were they would see right through your paper thin circular logic mismatched misinformation in about two seconds of reading one of your books.
This would make them want to scream bloody murder just as loudly as I want to.
08.24.09 at 6:46 pm
I am familiar with Wilber, reading him for a number of years starting with his first book Spectrum of Consciousness, and I can through all that see his process and how he would have at one time idolized Da. I don’t think he has the knowing to say that Da is a “superhero”..”unsurpassed” and so on. But…that’s who Wilber is and of course has created his own world..the world of Wilber. —The important thing is for people to be aware, open and certainly take things with a grain of salt. I have studied Da and met members of his community which I never cared to join, although some were encouraging me to do so. It was not right for me. For those that needed to be in that setting…so be it. —Right now I don’t think too much of Genpo Big Mind, Dyer and the list goes on. —-One book I would recommend is Beyond Religion by A. Neal and J. Seniff, a dialoque book.